[ Horvat @ 17.06.2010. 15:14 ] @
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Human genes to be injected into goats, cows, and sheep
By Eloise Gibson
4:00 AM Friday Apr 16, 2010

Scientists have been given permission to put human genes into goats, sheep and cows for the next 20 years, to see if the animals will produce human proteins in their milk.

But people will not be pouring the genetically modified milk on their Weetbix just yet - the milk will be discarded.

AgResearch won Environmental Risk Management Authority approval to allow a handful of scientists to breed and keep genetically-modified animals at the Ruakura research facility, near Hamilton.

The work will begin with genetically modified cows, and could be expanded to genetically modified goats within the next year.

There are no immediate plans to genetically modify sheep at Ruakura.

Simon Terry, of environmental consultancy the Sustainability Council, welcomed conditions making it clear the milk could not be made for commercial sale but he was concerned the 20-year time limit was three times as long as the last GM experiment at the facility.

And he feared Ruakura would become a "GM animal warehouse" because there were no limits on the number of animals.

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Jon Carapiet, of GE-free NZ, said the decision was the beginning of a "mega-transformation" of New Zealand agriculture.

But AgResearch's applied biotechnology head Jimmy Suttie said there were no plans to release any genetic material into the food chain.

He said human genetic material in the animals would be "switched on" only in the mammary glands of lactating animals, leaving the beasts otherwise unchanged.

AgResearch hopes human proteins made by the animals could eventually be used to make "biopharmaceuticals" to treat rare human diseases and boost New Zealand's income in the pharmaceuticals market.

Keeping GM goats will be a first for the facility, and people who spoke at the public hearing on the application were eager to warn the company about goats' incredible abilities to escape.

Dr Suttie said any human DNA used would almost certainly not be from a traceable person. It was now possible to build wholly synthetic human genes in a test tube using information bought from overseas databanks, he said. Agresearch has said it will not use Maori DNA because of cultural concerns.

Meanwhile, ERMA is considering broader plans by AgResearch to modify livestock to make antigens, biopharmaceuticals, enzymes, hormones and other products after the Court of Appeal overturned a High Court decision blocking the applications.

"Conspiracy is probably a strong word, but [it is] a concerted plan to transform New Zealand towards GE-based, GE-animals economy," Mr Carapiet said.

KEEPING IT IN
* Alarmed and monitored double fences, two metres high, round GM animals.
* Surplus milk to be treated and sprayed on fields inside facility.
* GM animals identified by tags.
* GM animals and those carrying GM embryos in facility for life.
* Non-GM animals can leave facility only if not pregnant.
* Non-GM animals must remain outside both perimeter fences if GM animals inside.

HOW IT WORKS
* Scientists take a piece of human DNA code.
* DNA code is injected into nucleus of a cell from a cow, goat, or sheep, sometimes using an inactive virus.
* Culture the cell and find out whether it is "working" and able to produce human protein.
* Put the nucleus of the cultured cell into an egg taken from the ovary of a dead cow from the abattoir whose original nucleus has been removed.
* Put the reconstructed egg into a the uterus of a host cow (non-GM).
* GM calf is born. When the calf matures she should be able to make milk with human protein in it.


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necu puno komentarisati, ne znam koliko je verodostojan izvor, ali ukoliko je ovo tacno,meni licno se ni najmanje ne "dopada" ova ideja
[ entropy @ 19.06.2010. 16:31 ] @
Pa bilo je već dosta sličnih istraživanja. Nema potrebe plaši ti ih se. Na ovaj način će se biotehnološki dobijati mnogo supstanci za lečenje bolesti.
[ Horvat @ 19.06.2010. 17:18 ] @
npr koja istrazivanja?

a sta kad mutira virus iz krave/koze/ovce?
[ superbaka @ 19.06.2010. 17:22 ] @
mutiraju na taj nacin i bez genetskih istrazivanja...
[ Shadowed @ 19.06.2010. 17:28 ] @
Pa, kod ovih stvari zapravo i ne moze da mutira.
Virus inace radi tako sto ubaci svoj dnk u celiju koji je takav da reprogramira celiju tako da pravi nove viruse. Prilikom pravljenja tih novih (razmnozavanje virusa) dolazi do gresaka tako da rezultujuci nije isti kao pocetni. Te razlike su mutacije.
Medjutim, kada se virus koristi za unosenje dnk materijala u celiju, taj uneti dnk je onaj koji mi zelimo i koji ne vodi do pravljenja novih kopija virusa pa samim tim ne moze doci ni do mutiranja.
[ Igor Gajic @ 19.06.2010. 17:37 ] @
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116654/

SF postaje stvarnost. Fali jos samo Marlon Brando
[ entropy @ 19.06.2010. 18:36 ] @
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Horvat: npr koja istrazivanja?

a sta kad mutira virus iz krave/koze/ovce?


Npr. nešto što već godinama ima praktičnu primenu:
- danas se insulin za obolele od diabetesa ne dobija izolovanjem iz pankreasa žrtvovanih životinja (najčešće svinja jer je najsličniji ljudskom insulinu) već se isključivo koristi insulin dobijen iz bakterija. Taj insulin se dobija tako što se humani gen za insulin ugradi u plazmide bakterija, a bakterija po "uputsvu" iz tog gena proizvodi humani insulin. Prednosti u ovom slučaju su ogromne. Prvo proizvodi se humani insulin pa nema potrebe da se dodatno obrađuje kao što je to bio slučaj kod korišćenja svinjskog insulina. A kao drugo imaš neograničeni resurs za proizvodnju u odnosu na klasičan metod gde moraš da žrtvuješ mnogo životinja, a opet dobiješ manje količine insulina.

Ima još dosta primera.
[ Horvat @ 19.06.2010. 20:14 ] @
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Shadowed: Pa, kod ovih stvari zapravo i ne moze da mutira.
Virus inace radi tako sto ubaci svoj dnk u celiju koji je takav da reprogramira celiju tako da pravi nove viruse. Prilikom pravljenja tih novih (razmnozavanje virusa) dolazi do gresaka tako da rezultujuci nije isti kao pocetni. Te razlike su mutacije.
Medjutim, kada se virus koristi za unosenje dnk materijala u celiju, taj uneti dnk je onaj koji mi zelimo i koji ne vodi do pravljenja novih kopija virusa pa samim tim ne moze doci ni do mutiranja.


mislio sam na to da se virus prenese na kravu koja sadrzi ljudski dnk i u njoj mutira tako da moze da utice i na ljude

entropy,zar nije malo velika razlika izmedju toga i kada friziras kravu da daje mleko sa "ljudskim" proteinima?

@superbaka,slazem se,al ovo bi mozda (ponavljam MOZDA) samo potpomoglo da "lakse" mutira


naravno, ovo mi nije samo zbog mogucih mutacija virusa "odvratno",al nema veze
[ Shadowed @ 19.06.2010. 20:25 ] @
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Horvat: mislio sam na to da se virus prenese na kravu koja sadrzi ljudski dnk i u njoj mutira tako da moze da utice i na ljude

Da bi mutirao mora da se razmnozava.
Ne razmnozava se (tako je napravljen) => ne mutira.
[ kkedacic @ 19.06.2010. 20:59 ] @
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Scientists have been given PREMISSION to put human genes

Bilo istina ili senzacionalisticko pisanje ovo je vrlo tuzno. Ako itko ima objektivno pravo da drugome daje dopustenje da nesto radi onda su to znanstvenici, a ne da se njima daju dopustenja.

U clanku pise "inactive virus", inace se korsiti pojam "vektor". Vektori ne moraju biti samo virusnoga podrijetla, a ako i jesu iz njih se izvade svi patogeni dijelovi i ostave se samo oni potrebni za transkripciju. Znaci vektor nema mogucnost samoreplikacije i sirenja.

Dalje pise da su im meta mlijecne zlijezde krave. Za to moraju napraviti viralni vektor koji ce na sebi imati receptore koji prepoznavaju samo mlijecne zlijezde od krave. Drugim rijecima, ako se taj isti vektor primjeni na covjeku ili na bilo kojoj drugoj vrsti nece se desiti apsolutno nista.
[ entropy @ 19.06.2010. 23:41 ] @
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Horvat

entropy,zar nije malo velika razlika izmedju toga i kada friziras kravu da daje mleko sa "ljudskim" proteinima?
naravno, ovo mi nije samo zbog mogucih mutacija virusa "odvratno",al nema veze


Suštinske razlike nema. E sad što je tebi teško da to prihvatiš to je druga stvar. ;)