[ Arax @ 31.05.2005. 22:50 ] @
| Imam problem,dok sam koristio windows,kada se prikacim na internet,odem na bilo koji chat sajt i mogu da chetujem,a preko linuxa ne mogu da chetujem,probao sam dosta Browsersa ali ni jedan ne mozee da chetuje i uvek skrece paznju da mi treba java.
Sta da radim? |
[ McKracken @ 31.05.2005. 22:56 ] @
Stavi Javu :)
[ MMX @ 31.05.2005. 23:14 ] @
[ drdrksa @ 01.06.2005. 01:17 ] @
Arax, takodje mozes da unapredis nacin chtaovanja, prelazeci na neki IRC Client, tipa XChat.
[ Arax @ 01.06.2005. 07:19 ] @
Moj problem je sto nisam dobro upozanat sa chatovanjem,kada skinem javu sa sajta koji sam dobio,znaci radice mi svi brwsoweri,ili moram da skidam javu posebno za svaki browsower?
[ Srđan Krstić @ 01.06.2005. 10:11 ] @
Ne moras, dovoljno je samo da instaliras Java Runtime Environment, i svaki ce browser znati da ti imas javu i gde je ona, jer ce se dodati path u environment promenljive.
[ drdrksa @ 01.06.2005. 10:15 ] @
Ukoliko ne znas kako se instalira Java, evo ti uputstvo korak po korak.
http://www.elitesecurity.org/tema/6900/0#438431
[ Arax @ 02.06.2005. 15:50 ] @
Ljudi,ne znam sta da vam kazem hvala vam na pomoci,
Imam samo jedno pitanje Zsto Windows ima javu a Linux ne?
[ caiser @ 02.06.2005. 15:57 ] @
Zato sto je linux kernel. I kao takav nema veze sa javom.
[ mulaz @ 02.06.2005. 15:59 ] @
amm mislim i da windows nema.. SP1 je imao JavaVM al su onda brzo izbacili SP1a bez JavaVM ..
znam da sam ja i na winsima instalirao javu sa sunovog sitea.. al ne znam dal se sa sp2 nesto promenilo (nemam winse vec godinu dana)
[ mrki @ 07.06.2005. 10:50 ] @
Citat: Arax:
Imam samo jedno pitanje Zsto Windows ima javu a Linux ne?
Zato što linux prilagođavaš sopstvenim potrebama :)
[ dandellion @ 08.06.2005. 00:28 ] @
zavisi koju si distribuciju instalirao i da li si prilikom instalacije instalirao i Javu....
[ Stator @ 08.06.2005. 08:10 ] @
Da naprimer SuSe 9.3 dolazi sa instaliranom javom.. tako da je pitanje ukusa i potreba..
[ Milos Dedijer @ 08.06.2005. 11:42 ] @
pazi ne morash ni na win da imash javu... :)
A koji car shljaka na lin a ne zna za javu... :)
[ BastardX @ 08.06.2005. 20:07 ] @
Vecina distroa ako ih instaliras po defaultu ne instaliraju javu a to mozes da resis u paket menangeru od tog distroa naknadnom instalacijom.Obicno imas sve i svasta od jave na instalacionim diskovima.
[ Arax @ 09.06.2005. 07:44 ] @
@ded4:
A koji car shljaka na lin a ne zna za javu... :)
Ja linux koristim tek 2-3 meseca,,a nemam ni jednog drugara koji poznaje linux!A zbog toga ne znam dosta stvari u linuxu,a ovo je jedna od njih.
Narucio sam ceo java paket na jednom dvd-u,treba da dodje ovih dana,tako da cu resiti i taj problem.
[ Milos Dedijer @ 09.06.2005. 11:56 ] @
@Arax
pa nije java vezana samo za Linux... To je pazi neko osnovno znanje koje obichni [prosechni] user treba da poseduje.
no nije ni bitno, vazno je da si reshio svoj problem...
p.s. koju distribuciju koristish... mozda [verovatno] nema potrebe da naruchujesh javu na discu... i ne znam zashto uzimash DVD kad mozesh da skinesh sa neta za vrlo kratko vreme...
p.p.s. preporuchujem ti da prosto skinesh mIRC ili xchat i uzivaj... mnoshtvo komandi... mnogo bolja kontrola... izgled... sve...
[ random @ 09.06.2005. 13:53 ] @
Preporučuješ mu da koristi mirc na Linuksu? Svašta ću na ovom forumu da pročitam :o).
[ Milos Dedijer @ 09.06.2005. 14:07 ] @
ne... pogreshno si me razumeo... tachnije ja sam loshe formulisao...
kad sam rekao da uzme mIRC ili xchat nisam precizirao OS... nego vidim da chatuje preko browsera a mnogo mu je bolje da koristi mirc ili xchat... a kaze da koristi linux oko 2-3mes. shto znachi da sigurno josh uvek ima win na hdd...
kapish? nisam razmishljao o OS-evima...
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e ako me opet neko skapirao svaka mu chast... odoh da spavam... :)))
[ Arax @ 12.06.2005. 20:45 ] @
Komp kao prosecan koristim vrlo dobro,na internetu se mozda malo slabije snalazim,za javu kao program sam cuo ali se nikada nme nije zanimalo da pitam cemu zapravo sluzi.Koristim MDK 10.1,cist linux imam na hdd bez wina.Da li neko moze da mi nesto kaze o Xchatu
i kako se koristi.
[ Milos Dedijer @ 13.06.2005. 10:18 ] @
e na MDK install discovima imash xchat 100% chim ja na 9.1 imam... :)) znachi samo update rokaj preko control centra znash vetj nisi lood...
Ma koristi se prosto nema shta da se objashnjava [isto kao i ona "java" na koju si navikao] s` tim shto imash mnogo vishe komandi ugradjenih u gui ali u sushtini je sve isto... s` tim shto ti treba neko osnovno znanje IRC komandi... [nije obavezno... :) ] I moratjesh sam da nameshtash server na koji tjesh da se kachish jer nije precizirano na samo npr. krstaricu kao oni apleti tamo...
[ dandellion @ 13.06.2005. 17:36 ] @
ako ti je potreban samo irc možeš da instaliraš Operu... u jednoj aplikaciji dobiješ i browser, i mail i irc i downloader i javu.....
ako hioćeš i icq, msn messinger i jabber i ostale instant messingere instaliraj gaim ili kopete, čini mi se da oba stižu na velikim user-oriented distribucijama (suse, mandrake...) i prilično su jednostavni za upotrebu.....
[ Arax @ 15.06.2005. 06:40 ] @
Instalirao sam Xchat,operu koristim vec godinu dana takodje imam je i u linuxu,gde mogu naci nekakvo upustvo za irc,ja se prikacim na Xchatu,i preko opere,ali ne zanam osnovne komande.Stigao mi je dvd sa javom,ali prcnuli me,nema za linux!
[ dandellion @ 15.06.2005. 06:55 ] @
full instalacija opere dolazi sa java podrškom......
što se tiče uputstva za irc:
pritisneš F1
otvori ti se strana file://localhost/usr/share/opera/help//chat.html
tamo piše:
Citat:
Getting started
To connect to a room for the first time:
Select New account on the Chat menu
Fill in your real name and e-mail address (or something else if you want some privacy)
Enter the nickname as you would like it to appear in the chat (this is restricted to 9 characters on some servers)
Choose a chat server to connect to
When you have set up a chat account, the list of rooms is automatically downloaded from the server and displayed.
i piše još svašta nešto...... sasvim jednostavno i razumljivo.....
[ Milos Dedijer @ 15.06.2005. 09:22 ] @
evo malo komandi...
Code: / Recalls the previous line entered in the current window.
/! Recalls the last command typed in any window.
/action {action text} Sends the specifed action to the active channel or query window.
/ame {action text} Sends the specifed action to all channels which you are currently on.
/amsg {text} Sends the specifed message to all channels which you are currently on.
/auser {level} {nick|address} Adds a user with the specified access level to the remote users list.
/auto [on|off|nickname|address] Toggles auto-opping of a nick or address or sets it on or off totally.
/away {away message} Sets you away leave a message explaining that you are not currently paying attention to IRC.
/away A plain away sets you being back.
/ban [#channel] {nickname} [type] Bans the specified nick from the curent or given channel.
/beep {number} {delay} Locally beeps 'number' times with 'delay' inbetween the beeps. /channel Pops up the channel central window (only works in a channel).
/clear Clears the entire scrollback buffer of the current window.
/clearall Clears all text in all open windows.
/ctcp {nickname} {ping|finger|version|time|userinfo|clientinfo} Does the given ctcp request on nickname.
/ctcps [on|off] Sets the Tools/Remote/ section (not) to listen to CTCP commands. Or checks its status.
/closemsg {nickname} Closes the query window you have open to the specified nick.
/creq [ask | auto | ignore] Sets your DCC 'On Chat request' settings in DCC/Options.
/dcc send {nickname} {file1} {file2} {file3} ... {fileN} Sends the specified files to nick.
/dcc chat {nickname} Opens a dcc window and sends a dcc chat request to nickname.
/dde [-r] {service} {topic} {item} [data] Allows DDE control between mIRC and other applications.
/ddeserver [[on [service name] | off] To turn on the DDE server mode, eventually with a givem service name.
/describe {#channel} {action text} Sends the specifed action to the specified channel window.
/disable {#groupname} De-activates a group of commands or events.
/disconnect Forces a hard and immediate disconnect from your IRC server. Use it with care.
/dlevel {level} Changes the default user level in the remote section.
/dns {nickname | IP address | IP name} Uses your providers DNS to resolve an IP address.
/echo [nickname|#channel|status] {text} Displays the given text only to YOU on the given place in color N.
/enable {#groupname} Activates a group of commands or events.
/events [on|off] Sets the Tools/Remote/ section (not) to listen to ON .. Events. Or checks its status.
/exit Forces mIRC to closedown and exit.
/finger {nick|address} Does a finger on a users address.
/flood [{numberoflines} {seconds} {pausetime}] Sets a crude flood control method.
/flush [levels] Clears all nicknames from the Remote/users list that are currently not on your channels.
/font Activates the font selection dialog.
/fsend [on|off] Shows fsends status and allows you to turn dcc fast send on or off.
/fserve {nickname} {maxgets} {homedirectory} [welcome text file] Opens a fileserver.
/groups [-e|d] Shows all (enabled or disabled) groups defined in the remote sections.
/guser {level} {nick} [type] Adds the user to the user list with the specified level and address type.
/help {keyword} Brings up the Basic IRC Commands section in the mIRC help file.
/ignore [on|off|nickname|address] Toggles ignoring of a nick or address or sets it on or off totally.
/invite {nickname} {#channel} Invites another user to a channel.
/join {#channel} Makes you join the specified channel.
/kick {#channel} {nickname} Kicks nickname off a given channel.
/list [#string] [-min #] [-max #] Lists all currently available channels, evt. filtering for parameters.
/load {-apuce} {filename.ini} Loads Aliases, Popups or Remote items into mIRC.
/log [on|off] Shows the logging status or sets it on or off for the current window.
/me {action text} Sends the specifed action to the active channel or query window. Also see /describe and /ctcp action.
/mode {#channel|nickname} [[+|-]modechars [parameters]] Sets channel or user modes.
/msg {nickname} {message} Send a private message to this user without opening a query window.
/names {#channel} Shows the nicks of all people on the given channel.
/nick {new nickname} Changes your nickname to whatever you like.
/notice {nick} {message} Send the specified notice message to the nick.
/notify [on|off|nickname] Toggles notifying you of a nick on IRC or sets it on or off totally.
/onotice [#channel] {message} Send the specified notice message to all channel ops.
/omsg [#channel] {message} Send the specified message to all ops on a channel.
/part [#channel] [message] Makes you leave the specified channel.
/partall Makes you leave all channels you are on.
/ping {server address} Pings the given server. NOT a nickname.
/play [-cpqmrlt] [channel/nick] {filename} [delay/linenumber] Allows you to play text files.
/pop {delay} [#channel] {nickname} Performs a randomly delayed +o on a not already opped nick.
/protect [on|off|nickname|address] Toggles protection of a nick or address or sets it on or off totally.
/query {nickname} {message} Open a query window to this user and send them the private message.
/quit [reason] Disconnect you from IRC with the optional byebye message.
/raw [on|off] Sets the Tools/Remote/ section (not) to listen to Raw commands. Or checks its status.
/raw {raw command} Sends any raw command you supply directly to the server. Use with care!
/remote [on|off] Sets the Tools/Remote/ section (not) to listen to CTCP or Raw remote commands and Events. Or checks its status.
/rlevel {access level} Removes all users from the remote users list with the specified access level.
/run {c:\path\program.exe} [parameters] Runs the specified program, evt. with parameters. Also try /run http://www.mirc.com etc.
/ruser {nick[!]|address} [type] Removes the user from the remote users list.
/save [-apuce] {filename.ini} Saves remote sections into a specified INI file.
/say {text} Says whatever you want to the active window.
/server [server address [port] [password]] Reconnects to the previous server or a newly specified one.
/sound [nickname|#channel] {filename.wav} {action text} Sends an action and a fitting sound request.
/speak {text} Uses the external text to speech program Monologue to speak up the text. Better use /gtalk with mIRC's Agent support.
/sreq [ask | auto | ignore] Sets your DCC 'On Send request' settings in DCC/Options.
/time Tells you the time on the server you use.
/timer[N] {repetitions} {interval in seconds} {command} [| {more commands}] Activates a timer.
/timestamp [on | off] Sets timestamping on or off for all your conversations.
/topic {#channel} {newtopic} Changes the topic for the specified channel.
/ulist {level} Lists all users in the remote list with the specified access levels.
/url [on|off|show|hide] [address] Opens the URL window that allows you to surf the www parallel to IRC.
/uwho [nick] Pops up the user central with information about the specified user.
/splay {c:\path\sound.file} Locally plays the specified sound file.
/who {#channel} Shows the nicks of all people on the given channel.
/who {*part.of.address*} Shows all people on IRC with a matching address.
/whois {nickname} Shows information about someone in the status window. Also try /uwho.
/whowas {nickname} Shows information about someone who -just- left IRC.
/write [-cidl] {filename} [text] To write the specified text to a .txt file.
mislim da tje ti biti dovoljno... :D ovo je pre svega za mIRC al to je to skoro je identichno...
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