[ das @ 10.05.2006. 11:40 ] @
Ovako , imam iskustva sa narezivanjem dvd - ova , filmova, muzike mozda oko 2 god ..do sad mi se ovo nije desavalo.
Koristio sam Samsung DVD Recorder a pre mesec dana sam kupio Pioneer DVD - RW DVR-111D. Od tad pocinju moje nevolje ..
Problem je sledeci:
Koristim NERO Express Software.
Dodje negde do oko 50 % i posle toga izda sledecu poruku
Burn process failed pres ok ..
Prvo sam mislio da je problem u ovom Pioneerovom dvd medjutim sad mi se to desava isto i sa Samsungovim dvd recorderom.
Inace
Pieoneer DVD je Master
Samsung je Slave , probao sam i obrnuto isti se desava ...
A DVD Blank koje koristim sad koristio sam i pre i ovo mi se nije desavalo .... Da li neko ima ideju sta do cega bi moglo biti ...sao da kazem ovo mi se desava kad narezujem filmove ..
znaci tri opcije
1. Harware
2. Software (samo da kazem koristio sam i DVD Santa i slicno se desava) znaci manja je verovatnoca da je do softvera.
Da li mozda ima neke veze Sto imam dva DVD-a na kompu ?
[ BytEfLUSh @ 12.05.2006. 03:43 ] @
Da li radiš on-the-fly kopiranje ili narezuješ podatke sa HDD-a? U svakom slučaju, probaj ostaviti samo jedan uređaj na toj grani a drugi, ako imaš mesta na primary, prebaci tamo.
[ das @ 12.05.2006. 05:46 ] @
Narezujem podatke sa HDD-a svaki put.
[ das @ 12.05.2006. 05:57 ] @
"U svakom slučaju, probaj ostaviti samo jedan uređaj na toj grani a drugi, ako imaš mesta na primary, prebaci tamo."
Ovo ne razumem sta si hteo da kazes??
[ milan_kraljevo @ 13.05.2006. 22:02 ] @
Da ne bi počinjao novu temu, s obzirom da se radi o istom uređaju, napisaću nešto ovde o problemu koji imam sa Pioneer 111D, kupljenim samo pre tri nedelje. Prilikom rezanja DVD, jednostavno se Nero zamrzne na 2, 4 ili X % diska i jedino ga gasi restart mašine. Dešava se čak i da se PC totalno zmrzne, ne samo Nero. Isti problem se dešava sa DVD tri različita proizvođača, tako da se može zaključiti da nije problem do diskova. Prilikom rezanja sa simulacijom, rezač i ne uspe da pređe na rezanje, zamrzne se prilikom simulacije. Interesantno je da uređaj normalno narezuje CD, pa i PrimeDisc CD od 800MB, uz uključen overburne, i da sam normalno narezao par DVD pre nego što se javio ovaj problem.Program koji koristim za rezanje je Nero 6.3.1.25 Enterprise edition. Rezač je instaliran kao Secondary master.

Da li neko ima ideju o čemu se radi i kako može da se reši ovaj "problemčić"?
[ das @ 14.05.2006. 03:31 ] @
Vrlom, vrlo slican slucaj kao moj a isti brand. I ja sam ovaj svoj DVD kupio pre oko 20 dana. Isto na pocetku mozda prvih nekoliko dana je radilo ok bez problema, cak bolje nego na starom jer mi nije toliko usporavao komp kad narezuje ili skida DVD -ove. I onda recimo 1 dvd nareze ok a 2 dodje do oko 50 % i pokaze onu poruku: "burn process failed at 4x" , uvek narezujem filmove sa 2x ili sa 4x brzinom.
Na pocetku mi je ovad Pioneer 111D bio slave i mislio sam da mozda nije to problem. Onda sam ga prebacio u Master ali isto sve. Da nije mozda do ovog DVD ROOM-a?
Pisite ko ima Pioneer dvd, kakva su vasa iskustva...
[ das @ 14.05.2006. 03:36 ] @
Evo ovo je Log file:
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=45056 bytes, created 16/07/2004 6:24:34 PM
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 16/12/2003 8:18:06 PM
Nero version: 6.3.1.12 (Nero Express)
Recorder: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D>Version: 1.06 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.12
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2000kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 11
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: DVD+R9 DL recorder
CD-ROM: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D>Version: 1.06 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.12
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST380011A atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG DVD R/RW SH-W08A atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D E: CDRom0
SAMSUNG DVD R/RW SH-W08A D: CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 511MB (523760kB)
Free physical memory: 172MB (176480kB)
Memory in use : 66 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

10.5.2006
UDF/ISO compilation
8:07:32 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
DVD-Video files reallocation started

8:07:33 PM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

8:07:33 PM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6065
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

8:07:33 PM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
DVD-Video files sorted

8:07:33 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

8:07:33 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
Writer PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D running

8:07:33 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

8:07:33 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

8:07:33 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3167
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

8:07:33 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 1969823 (437:44.23, 3847MB)

8:07:33 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 257
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

8:07:33 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2137
Recorder: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: TYG02 -
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

8:07:33 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 418
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

8:07:33 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1969824 (1969824) = #1969824/437:44.24
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1969824 blocks [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D]
--------------------------------------------------------------

8:07:33 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 982
Prepare recorder [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4034199552, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
1969824 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

8:07:33 PM #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
Caching of files started

8:07:33 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4177
Cache writing successful.

8:07:33 PM #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
Caching of files completed

8:07:33 PM #19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

8:07:33 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2345
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

8:07:34 PM #21 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1694
Set remaining time: 12:16,090 (736090ms) -> OK

8:07:34 PM #22 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1833
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

8:07:34 PM #23 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 20173
Set BUFE: supported -> ON

8:07:34 PM #24 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1974
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

8:07:34 PM #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8063
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

8:07:36 PM #26 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1293
20:07:36.187 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D\H1 T0 : Queue again later

8:08:09 PM #27 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1293
20:08:09.140 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D\H1 T0 : Queue again later

8:08:09 PM #28 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1293
20:08:09.375 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D\H1 T0 : Queue again later

8:08:09 PM #29 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1293
20:08:09.484 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D\H1 T0 : Queue again later

8:08:10 PM #30 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1293
20:08:10.203 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D\H1 T0 : Queue again later

8:08:10 PM #31 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1293
20:08:10.312 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D\H1 T0 : Queue again later

8:08:24 PM #32 SCSI -1135 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1441
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x09550000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x0C
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0D 0xE0 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x71 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x0A 0xD0 0x0E
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x00

8:08:24 PM #33 CDR -1135 File Writer.cpp, Line 304
Write error

8:08:24 PM #34 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
all writers idle, stopping conversion

8:08:24 PM #35 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 223
conversion idle, stopping reader

8:08:24 PM #36 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2201
EndDAO: Last written address was 3551

8:08:24 PM #37 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1694
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

8:08:24 PM #38 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1694
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

8:08:24 PM #39 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
Burn process failed at 4x (5,540 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002) built by: WinDDK, size=16512 bytes, created 16/07/2004 6:24:34 PM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.28a, size=20640 bytes, created 27/10/2005 6:12:48 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 3/08/2004 10:59:44 PM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
[ since1986BC @ 14.07.2006. 22:23 ] @
Toliko ste ispljuvali ovaj uredjaj da se premisljam da ga uzmem.
Ali ne bih da uzimam ni nec 3550 ne svidja mi se sto prilikom male zaustavke
rada sa cd/dvd-om on zaustavlja disk i cim ponovo krenem da radim na medijima
on krece kilavo ubrzavanje. Toga nemam kod asusovog dvd-roma tako da razmisljam
uzeti Asus koji ni malo ne deluje naivno usavsi u igru sa optickim uredjajima.
[ icobh @ 14.07.2006. 23:27 ] @
Moram da se uključim u raspravu. Ako ste nekog ispljuvali, ispljuvali ste pogrešnog! NERO je najveći lame program za narezivanje CD/DVD-ova! Probaj evo npr. CDBurnerXP Pro 3.0 ili evo samo za narezivanje CD-ova, mali programčić open source, ja ga samo iskompajlirao i evo ga zakačen dole. Koliko je samo meni puta pucao Nero na 50% i koliko mi je puta svaku pjesmu na audio cd-u skratio, bruka za takav brend. Jednostavno, sad koristim CDBurnerXP Pro 3.0 i nepada mi napamet da ga mijenjam.
[ CooLa @ 15.07.2006. 02:22 ] @
Jbt ljudi da ste pogledali malo videli bi:

Pioneer DVD-RW faq
[ dulesusic @ 15.07.2006. 11:20 ] @
Imao sam ja te probleme sa narezivanjem DVD-ova i CD-ova preko Nera 7, vratio sam se na Nero 6.6.0.16, i nikad vise nije puklo narezivanje. Pioneer DVR-108...
[ moon510 @ 22.07.2006. 20:31 ] @
Ja sam skoro kupio pioneer dvr 111d. Nije mi pravio probleme, mada nisam narezao nijedan disk u Neru. Za narezivanje koristim samo VSO CopytoDVD. Radi sve lepo. Posle ovog što sam pročitao ovde potražio sam i našao firmware verziju 1.23. Sada je 1.06. Neću fleshovati dok ne iskrsne problem, ne daj bože.
[ Elettronica @ 29.07.2006. 05:21 ] @
- Nero Burning ROM 6.3.16 i novije verzije, tek dobro poznaju DVD medijum! Tako da starije verzije mogu praviti razne gluposti sa rezanjem DVD-a.

- Unapred se izvinjavam poklonicima Nero programa, ali sta ce vam to komplikovano djubre? Osim malog broja korisnika koji stvarno koristi Nero-ve alate, ostalima uopste nije potreban ovaj program.
- Koristite: NTI CD DVD-Maker Platinum ili neki Sonic-ov (Roxio) program i necete imati probleme sa "pucanjem" diskova!!!! Rezite uvek sa manjim brzinama (DVD 4x, CD 8x) da bi dubina zapisa bila veca jer su takvi diskovi upotrebljivi i posle duzeg vremena i na vecem broju uredjaja. Ako zelite i dalje Nero, a vi onda bacajte diskove!

- Ako vam glavi racunar posle ugradnje nekog uredjaja (Hdd, DVD, ...), proverite kablove za napajanje, obicno je problam los kontakt. Stegnite malo kontakte i PC nece vise da "zamrzava"! Ja doduse koristim Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-108 odmah flashovan sa Firmwire-om v1.14, koji ima bolju optiku od 109 (110, 111), ali ni sa njima ne bi smelo da bude problema koristeci NTI program.

UKRATKO:
-Stegnite kontakte napajanja,
-koristite pouzdan program,
-proverite (reinstarirajte ako treba) ASPI drajvere
( ftp://ftp.adaptec.com/ ftp://ftp.adaptec.com/software_pc/aspi/aspichk.exe ),
-ocistite viruse i ostalo djubre,
-ako i tada ne radi dobro onda stvarno ne valja laser!!!!


Nadam se, koristice nekom. Pozdrav!