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[ Catch 22 @ 07.11.2007. 22:48 ] @
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| Ova vest kruži internetom već neko vreme... špekuliše se o tome da li će Google da izbaci nekakav pandan iPhoe-u u vidu GooglePhone ili će da se upusti u pravljenje softverske platforme za celu novu generaciju smart telefona... Poslednje vesti govore o Open Source platformi baziranoj na Linuxu...
Citat: Google wants to be Windows for your cell phone
After a week or so of rumors about an exciting new "Google Phone," the Web software giant confirmed Monday the details about its venture into the mobile platform, i.e. your cell phone.
Rather than release one model of a phone, Google is teaming with 33 other participants, including carriers T-Mobile and Sprint, in the Open Handset Alliance to create a unified platform, currently named Google Android, for running software applications on mobile devices.
What's that all mean? The big motivation for Google is that it will likely have its applications such as Gmail and Google Docs & Spreadsheets automatically built into a major share of new cell phones in the burgeoning market.
What's interesting and exciting is that the platform--likely based on Linux--will be open to all third-party developers. With any luck, that means that consumers will finally be able to choose exactly which software apps they want to use on their cell phones.
Google CEO Eric Schmidt claims that "as a result of this platform you'll be able to do amazing things with your mobile devices that you've never thought of." We'll get a first peek at the possibilities for programmers with an early look at a software development kit for Google Android next week.
Nicole Lee has created a wish list of features that she'd want from a Google phone. What's your dream of a perfect cell phone? Tell me about it, or whether or not you'd welcome Google onto your cell phone in the CNET Download.com blog.
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[ LAsERtri @ 09.11.2007. 15:52 ] @
Pozdrav.
To sto krasi Android je da ce biti free! Znaci vecina Smartphona mogla bi u buducnosti da bas radi na tom OS-u.
Zasto placati kao proizvodac mobilnih uredaja OS. kada se moze od googl-a dobiti free ;)
[ -V-O-Y-A-G-E-R- @ 09.11.2007. 22:37 ] @
Citat: LAsERtri: To sto krasi Android je da ce biti free! Znaci vecina Smartphona mogla bi u buducnosti da bas radi na tom OS-u.
Postoji jedan veći momenat u tome koji će se OS koristiti, od same cene. Evropke firme su većinski vlasnici Symbiana, samim tim i podržavaju njegovu upotrebu.
Citat: LAsERtri: Zasto placati kao proizvodac mobilnih uredaja OS. kada se moze od googl-a dobiti free ;)
Pa, ako si vlasnik akcija jednog OS-a, onda sigurno nećeš koristiti tuđi :) Npr. Nokia i SE. [ Catch 22 @ 10.11.2007. 11:53 ] @
Samsung očigledno nema taj kompleks, pravi telefone sa Symbian, Linux... šta god... važno da se dobro prodaje! Korejanci su odavno pokupovali sve nekadašnje evropske firme, koje su bile "big names in consumer electronics"
Izgleda da ima puno neshvatljivih lekcija sa dalekog istoka, koje još uvek teško ulaze u evro-američke glave...
 [ Ivan Dimkovic @ 10.11.2007. 15:12 ] @
Citat:
Pa, ako si vlasnik akcija jednog OS-a, onda sigurno nećeš koristiti tuđi :) Npr. Nokia i SE.
Nokia je jedini "iskonski" pobornik Symbian OS-a, dok SE koristi Symbian samo u nekim telefonima (SE koristi i EMP - Ericsson Mobile Platform, tj. interni RTOS)
Ostali proizvodjaci su prilicno otvoreni sto se platformi tice. Mislim da Google ide na laku povezanost Google OS-a sa Google-ovim back-end API-jima kao i sa onim njihovim kalenderom i Office-om... sa tim bi Google OS mogao zaista biti vrlo konkurentna platforma ostalim Smartphone OS-evima. [ -V-O-Y-A-G-E-R- @ 10.11.2007. 16:49 ] @
Pa ni Nokia ga ne koristi u svim telefonima, jer i ona ima "fabrički" OS na većem broju telefona. A počela je prva, a SE ju je pratio UIQ-om na P800.
[ dr ZiDoo @ 12.11.2007. 08:33 ] @
Trebace googlu da se ubaci pored symbiana. Vjerovatno ce i symbian sad da otvori code ili nesto slicno.
[ Stefan Markic @ 13.11.2007. 23:56 ] @
[ momsab @ 14.11.2007. 12:56 ] @
code.google.com/android
[ -V-O-Y-A-G-E-R- @ 14.11.2007. 17:19 ] @
Citat: dr ZiDoo: Trebace googlu da se ubaci pored symbiana. Vjerovatno ce i symbian sad da otvori code ili nesto slicno.
Windows zbog Linuxa i BSD-a to nije uradio..što bi to sad radio Symbian konzorcijum :)
Postoji SDK za platformu i to ti je dovoljno kao programeru da razvijaš programe za tu platformu :) [ rapidlord @ 16.11.2007. 15:56 ] @
Android je mnogo opasniji igrac, nego sto na prvi pogled moze da se vidi,
Ko sve stoji iza te price !!!
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html
dvatesetak najvecih IT kompanija na planeti
pa zatim Linux kore, totalno kastomiziran GUI,
MIslim da Android nece da se zaustavi na GPhonu, i novim uredjajima
koji ce da se prave specijalno za njega,
jasno se vidi da uz nove fimware-eve i malo modifikaciji Linux kernela,
mocicemo da instaliramo ovaj sistem na Pocket PC, Palm OS,
cak i na Symbian telefone,
samo je pitanje trenutka kad ce da pocnu da nicu tutoriali tipa
"install Android on your nokia N73"
Uz open source zajednicu smestice ovaj sistem na svaki smartphone
koji postoji.
I ako se pokaze da je sistem stvarno dobra stvar , sto uopste nije
pitanje jer Google stoji iza njega. Zasto bih se uopste vracali na Symbian
i MS kad jednom fleashujete svoj Mob.Pda.
Mozda se stvarno desava nesto veliko,
mozda je stvarno stigao "ONE TO RULE THEM ALL" :)) [ -V-O-Y-A-G-E-R- @ 16.11.2007. 18:54 ] @
Citat: rapidlord:
Zasto bih se uopste vracali na Symbian
i MS kad jednom fleashujete svoj Mob.Pda.
Možda jer će biti ista situacija kao i sa Linuxom na iPodu..ne prestaje da vrti hard i bateriju pojede za sat vremena :)
Ne može svaki Pera haker uvek portovati neki sistem na platformu za koju se u startu nije pisao taj OS. [ rapidlord @ 16.11.2007. 19:12 ] @
@-V-O-Y-A-G-E-R-
Verovatno si u pravu , ali sta ako umesto pere hakera, taj posao preuzme na sebe alijansa licno, t.j. google,
Verovatno tu ima i nekih pravnih pitanja, sta znam, mozda je i pravno nemoguce.
Ali mislim da ce kad tad na mobilnim uredjima da se desi ono sto se desilo na desktop racunarima,
pojavice se jedan sistem koji ce se vrteti na svim smartphone uredjajima.
Jer je sada situacija katastrofalna sto se tice razvoja softvera, da bi tvoj softver podrzao sve mobilne uredjaje
treba ti preko 50 bildova, WM nekoliko razlicitih verzija sistema, razlicite rezollucije, o Symbianu i da nepricamo,
S60 1,2,3, UIQ..., jedna aplikacije moze da bude nekompatibilna na dva naizgled potpuno ista telefona , Palm , Blackberry, Linux distribucije,
iPhone, Android... ?!?
potrebno je mnogo ulaganja da bi softver radio na svim uredjajima, toliko mnogo da se sam profit stavlja u pitanje.
Zbog toga mislim da ce svima da bude mnogo lakse kad se pojavi jedan sistem koji ce moci da radi na svim uredjajima,
kad developeri budu shvatili to razvoj za sve ostale patforme ce se drasticno smanjiti.
Android moze da bude vrlo blizu ostvarenja te ideje.
Mozda...
[ -V-O-Y-A-G-E-R- @ 16.11.2007. 19:47 ] @
Verovatno da će uzeti dobar deo tržišta, ali kao što takva unificiranost danas nije prisutna kod računara koji su zahvalniji za takve intervencije,(ipak postoje 3 mainstream OS-a + i više drugih), teško da će u telefoniji biti bolje :)
Pre svega vlasnicima sadašnjih OS-eva nije do toga. Linux je free, ali ga opet ne koristi veći deo tržišta iz ovih ili onih razloga. Pretpostavimo da je razlog tome neobaveštenost. Kod telefona je još složenije. Ja želim mobilni i zbog dizajna/kamere/čega god želim Nokiju, istu Nokiju i kupim i na njoj je...Symbian. Jedino da nosim kod nekog da mi menja softver..ali kako bih znao da tako nešto i postoji..pa ja sam samo običan korisnik kome je trebao mobilni i koji je kupio baš taj zato što je čuo da je Samsung ili Nokia najbolji.. :)
Zbog te logike, a i zbog opstanka tržišta kome treba polarizacija neke vrste, neće nikad postojati jedan OS. Ali, svaka konkurencija je dobra ;)
[ Catch 22 @ 20.12.2007. 11:06 ] @
Citat: Gizmodo has posted a “live” picture of a mobile device prototype based on Google Android platform. This is a candy bar device with a landscape oriented display and a QWERTY-keyboard. Its design resembles HTC smartphones (it might be designed by this very company) or SDK Android emulator. This is an early proto, so the final version might look other way. The device is quick fast and lightweight on this stage: it works faster than the desktop emulator, says the source.
The first Android devices are said to come out in the second half of 2008. Probably we’ll see among them the final version of this proto.
 [ -V-O-Y-A-G-E-R- @ 20.12.2007. 11:43 ] @
Al je ružan :D
[ Catch 22 @ 20.12.2007. 19:47 ] @
Ko? Telefon ili OS-UI?
Telefon je izgleda HTC i meni je baš ružan, a Android ćemo procenjivati kad izađe iz prototip faze... ima da se načekamo bar 6 meseci, a možda i duže, do finalnog proizvoda...
Za sad, koliko vidim tu su samo ikonice: File Explorer, E-mail (G-mail?), SMS, Web Browser, Opera-mini
Pitanje je da li išta od toga uopšte i radi u ovoj fazi...
PS
Komplet navigacionih tastera izgleda kao "ružno pače" rešenja viđenog na Nokia E51 [ -V-O-Y-A-G-E-R- @ 20.12.2007. 19:59 ] @
Telefon, telefon :)
Da ima malo oštrije ivice dugmića, zaista bih pomislio da na slici vidim neki vojni uređaj. A zna se da su oni operisani od estetike :)
[ Catch 22 @ 20.12.2007. 20:36 ] @
Izgled prototipa je obično u rukama inženjera, a finalni proizvod oblikuju dizajneri (koje vojska valda ne voli posebno da plaća)
[ rapidlord @ 21.12.2007. 02:51 ] @
Za OS UI ne morate da cekate izlazak telefona, mozete da skinete android emulator za PC, i vidite kako OS radi,
sta znam meni se na prvi pogled ne cini lose.
http://code.google.com/android/download.html[ Catch 22 @ 11.01.2008. 11:09 ] @
Evo ga i prvi primerak telefona sa podrškom za Google Android. Telefon je prikazan na Consumer Electronic Show 2008
 
Citat: Wistron unveils the first Android-smartphone
The China-based ODM-maker Wistron has unveiled its GW4 smartphone at the CES 2008 show. This is a candy bar phone with an integrated QWERTY-keyboard and a touch-sensitive display and powered by MontaVista Linux 2.6. The device is peculiar for the support of a new open platform Google Android. The GW4 version based on it will be released in March. Probably it will be the first Google Android smartphone and come out to the market under the brands of biggest vendors, says a Wistron spokesman. Those vendors will set the price of the product.
Wistron GW4 features modest specs, according to the company, this hints at Linux effectiveness. The current smartphone version works in GSM networks (tri-band for the US and tri-band for Europe and Asia). The 3G modification is expected late in 2008.
The specs of Wistron GW4:
Networks - GSM/GPRS (without EDGE)
Chipset - TI OMAP 1710 216 MHz CPU and 64 MB of memory
Display – 2.5” 320x240 pixels touchscreen
2-megapixel camera
Wi-Fi 802.11g
Built-in SIP VOIP-client
Opera browser
Vidgets, for example, weather forecast of share rating
[ momsab @ 11.01.2008. 12:12 ] @
ajoj, ruzni su
mnogo gotivno WIFi dugme, ima li negde za bt?
[ -V-O-Y-A-G-E-R- @ 11.01.2008. 12:27 ] @
Meni liče na one nove Nokije N71, koje je Catch okačio ovde pre par dana :)
[ Catch 22 @ 01.02.2008. 02:11 ] @
Izgleda da će Google u saradnji sa firmom Dell ipak predstaviti vlastiti telefon na predstojećem Mobile World Congress...
Citat: Reportedly, Google will announce the deal with Dell to release the own-brand device at Mobile World Congress. I’d remind you that the Google Phone had been speculated in the Internet for a pretty long time. Every now and then the rumors had been denied by the trusted sources and refreshed all over again. Last November the company launched a Linux open platform – Google Android. Then the company said it won’t announce the release of a mobile phone. That is we got neither a strong denial nor official confirmation of a Google Phone. Soon we’ll learn whether Dell would release a cell phone for Google. [ Catch 22 @ 15.02.2008. 12:45 ] @
Jedno od iznenađenja na sajmu WMC-2008 u Barseloni je i pojava Android telefona (funkcionalni prototip), kojeg je predstavio Texas Instruments...
[att_img]
[ Catch 22 @ 16.02.2008. 02:41 ] @
Evo još novosti sa WMC-2008, izašao je novi Google Android SDK i može slobodno da se preuzme:
Citat: Google's new Android SDK has been officially released. It brings a new User Interface, which now looks more iPhone-like, than Windows Mobile-ish, layout animations for applications, geo-coding support,which allows your current address to be translated into a co-ordinate, support for newer media codecs, such as OGG Vorbis, offering slightly better quality than the popular MP3 codec, and at a smaller file size. However the part of the platform in charge of its calling features hasn't change at all, which is, as the community claims, a serious letdown, since they are still unable to get some features of the Android work.
All developers out there don’t forget that Google's $10 million Challenge deadline is April 14. The grand prize, and runner up, will be announced on July 21st.
Also, here is something of note: LG’s Chang Ma, vice president for marketing strategy, said yesterday in an interview, which took place at the Mobile World Congress trade show, that it planned to release a phone, based on Google's Android platform, in late 2008/early 2009.
[ osmania @ 25.06.2008. 09:48 ] @
na kakvim mobilnim ce raditi taj anroid, neke posebne ili ce se moci instalirati na htc ova malo starije ili kako vec...
koja konfiguracija ce ici...
hvala
[ -V-O-Y-A-G-E-R- @ 25.06.2008. 10:45 ] @
Biće vrlo portabilan, pa treba očekivati da će se moći kad sazri instalirati na veliki broj telefona. Na HTC će svakako biti portovan.
[ Vranac @ 25.06.2008. 14:33 ] @
Jedini problem je sto je Android poceo da kasni, bice steta ako izgube buzz koji su stvorili.
[ Catch 22 @ 15.07.2008. 02:24 ] @
[ Catch 22 @ 08.08.2008. 00:38 ] @
Citat: HTC set to begin shipping Android-based handsets by Q4
As promised, HTC will begin shipping handsets, based on Google's Android Operating System, by the fourth quarter this year, said the company's CFO Hui-ming Cheng. The first of their Android-based handsets is expected to be the HTC Dream. The touchscreen market continues to grow at a fast rate, and this will only help HTC further in gaining more of the mobile phone marketshare. Their Windows Mobile-based Touch Diamond handset has been shipped to a significant number of network operators in many countries, so there's no reason why the first Android-based handsets shouldn't catch a number of operators attention too.
Izvor: Mobile Review[ boxxter @ 19.08.2008. 22:02 ] @
The HTC Dream will run Google's operating system as well as sport Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and 3G capabilities over T-Mobile's networks.
http://www.informationweek.com...icle.jhtml?articleID=210101836[ Catch 22 @ 30.05.2009. 09:36 ] @
Nova "krofna" (Android v2.0, codename Donut) iz kompanije Google:
Google shows off Android 2.0
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