Koliko se meni čini, ako naučiš C# (ili bilo koji drugi jezik) sam C/AL ti neće biti problem. Kod učenja "Navižna" najmanji problem je sintaksa jezika (koja mnogo liči na Pascal), a daleko bitniji su sama logika, zatim vrste objekata i raznorazni propertiji na samim objektima koji olakšavaju razvoj aplikacije...

Isplati se i to mnogo

S obzirom da ovaj deo es foruma prate ljudi koji rade ili koriste ERP, verovatnoća da dobiješ odgovor da se ne isplati je minimalna


edit: možda bi se ova tema mogla spojiti sa temom o Akademiji jer imaju istu priču.

_{[Ovu poruku je menjao mirko.mirko dana 12.11.2007. u 13:53 GMT+1]}

Cifra, naravno zavisi od znanja i iskustva, ali je i za početnike iznad proseka.
A sa druge strane, ukoliko stekneš određeno iskustvo, veoma lako možeš da promeniš firmu, jer nema dovoljno ljudi na tržištu sa tim znanjem.

Kako bih mogao verifikovati znanje Nav? Ima li neki sertifikat ili slično?

Izvinjavam se, sad sam video drugu temu sa tim što me zanima.

Možeš da polažeš ispite u Prometricu.

Ukoliko položiš 1 ispit dobijaš MS Business Solutions Certified Professional.
Kada sklopiš 4 ispita dobijaš MS Business Solutions Certified Master.

Master postoji za 3 oblasti:
•for Application (1 obavezan, 3 izborna)
•for Development (2 obavezna, 2 izborna)
•for Installatio and Configuration (2 obavezna, 2 izborna)

aleksandre, iz koje oblasti je tvoj master?

Application

zna li neko zašto nema ni reči o pomenutim sertifikatima:

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/certifications.mspx

čak i google daje primetno drugačije rezultate:

Google: "MBSC learning microsoft"

Google: "MCSA learning microsoft"

Vidi ovde: https://partner.microsoft.com/40014374

https://mbs.microsoft.com/part...ampreparation/MBS_Nav_prep.htm

Mala ispravka vezana za nazive koji se dobijaju polaganjem Microsoft Dynamics ispita (ranije: Microsoft Business Solutions):

Ranije: Microsoft Business Solutions Certified Professional - Sada: Microsoft Certified Business Management Solution Specialist
Ranije: Microsoft Business Solutions Certified Master - Sada: Microsoft Certified Business Management Solution Professional.

dakle: professional --> specialist
master --> professional


Ovo me podseća na ovu našu zavrzlamu oko diplomiranih i mastera :)))

Možda nije mnogo bitno al' nek' se zna.

a da probaš da se ulogueš, pa nam baciš neki screenshot....

Ovo su osnovni podaci, ukoliko želite za specifične ispite, kažite mi šta vas interesuje:



Microsoft Dynamics NAV Certification Exam Preparation Guides
Last Modified 2.11.2007
Posted 17.9.2004
Select an exam from the list below to view the exam preparation guide.


If you're enrolled in a Partner Service Plan for Microsoft Dynamics convenient links have been added in the certification exam preparation guides to direct you right to the E-Learning and training materials associated with the certification exam so you can prepare for the exam. Note: Before the links in the learning plans will work properly, you must go to the main E-Learning page to first create your E-Learning account so the links within the certification exam preparation guides are active.

Costing
C/SIDE Introduction
C/SIDE Solution Development
Financial Series
Installation & Configuration
Manufacturing
Relationship Management
Service Management
Trade & Inventory
Warehouse Management

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Costing

Certification Title
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist - Costing for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Exam Requirements
Microsoft Dynamics NAV Costing Exam
Available Languages
4.0 English


C/SIDE Introduction

Certification Title
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist - C/SIDE Introduction for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Exam Requirements
Microsoft Dynamics NAV C/SIDE Introduction Exam
Available Languages
5.0 English
4.0 English


C/SIDE Solution Development

Certification Title
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist - C/SIDE Solution Development for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Exam Requirements
Microsoft Dynamics NAV C/SIDE Solution Development Exam
Available Languages
5.0 English
4.0 English
3.x English


Financial Series

Certification Title
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist - Financials for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Exam Requirements
Microsoft Dynamics NAV Financials Exam
Available Languages
5.0 English
4.0 English
3.x English
5.0 Danish
5.0 Dutch
5.0 French
5.0 German
5.0 Italian
5.0 Norwegian
5.0 Spanish
5.0 Swedish
4.0 Czech
4.0 Danish
4.0 Dutch
4.0 Estonian
4.0 Finnish
4.0 French
4.0 German
4.0 Italian
4.0 Latvian
4.0 Lithuanian
4.0 Norwegian
4.0 Polish
4.0 Portuguese
4.0 Russian
4.0 Spanish
4.0 Swedish


Installation & Configuration

Certification Title
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist - Installation and Configuration for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Exam Requirements
Microsoft Dynamics NAV Installation and Configuration Exam
Available Languages
5.0 English
4.0 English


Manufacturing

Certification Title
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist - Manufacturing for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Exam Requirements
Microsoft Dynamics NAV Manufacturing Exam
Available Languages
4.0 English
3.x English
4.0 Czech
4.0 Danish
4.0 Dutch
4.0 French
4.0 German
4.0 Italian
4.0 Russian
4.0 Spanish


Relationship Management

Certification Title
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist - Relationship Management for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Exam Requirements
Microsoft Dynamics NAV Relationship Management Exam
Available Languages
4.0 English


Service Management

Certification Title
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist - Service Management for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Exam Requirements
Microsoft Dynamics NAV Service Management Exam
Available Languages
4.0 English



Trade & Inventory

Certification Title
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist - Trade & Inventory for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Exam Requirements
Microsoft Dynamics NAV Trade & Inventory Exam
Available Languages
4.0 English
4.0 Czech
4.0 Danish
4.0 Dutch
4.0 Estonian
4.0 Finnish
4.0 French
4.0 German
4.0 Italian
4.0 Latvian
4.0 Lithuanian
4.0 Norwegian
4.0 Polish
4.0 Portuguese
4.0 Russian
4.0 Spanish
4.0 Swedish


Warehouse Management

Certification Title
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist - Warehouse Management for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Exam Requirements
Microsoft Dynamics NAV Warehouse Management Exam
Available Languages
4.0 English
3.x English
4.0 Czech
4.0 Danish
4.0 Dutch
4.0 French
4.0 German
4.0 Italian
4.0 Russian
4.0 Spanish

ovde piše da je svuda potreban jedan ispit?

gledao sam ostale MS stranice, koje su dostupne, i skoro za svaki sert se traži SQL Server 2005, jel tačno?

Za "Installation and Configuration" jedan od obaveznih ispita je i SQL administracija. Do Nove godine će biti dovoljan MS SQL 2000, a posle toga mora MS SQL 2005. SQL se traži samo za ovaj sertifikat, za programere i konsultante nije potreban.

Evo malo detaljnije za svaki sertifikat:

Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Professional Applications for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Last Modified 16.10.2007
Posted 28.7.2004
This premier certification helps demonstrate your professional developer proficiency in Microsoft Dynamics NAV. You must pass one core certification exam and three elective exams to earn your certification in Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Professional Applications for Microsoft Dynamics NAV.

If you're enrolled in a Partner Service Plan for Microsoft Dynamics convenient links have been added in the certification exam preparation guides to direct you right to the E-Learning and training materials associated with the certification exam so you can prepare for the exam. Note: Before the links in the learning plans will work properly, you must go to the main E-Learning page to first create your E-Learning account so the links within the certification exam preparation guides are active.

For more information about certifications or to prepare for a certification exam, review the following exam preparation guides.

Core Exams (1 exam required):
Financials in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 5.0

Elective Exams (3 exams required):
Relationship Management in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
Manufacturing in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
Service Management in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
Warehouse Management in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
Trade & Inventory in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
Costing in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
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Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Professional–Developer for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Last Modified 16.10.2007
Posted 28.7.2004
This premier certification helps demonstrate your professional developer proficiency in Microsoft Dynamics NAV. You must pass two core certification exams and two elective exams to earn your certification in Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Professional Developer for Microsoft Dynamics NAV.

If you're enrolled in a Partner Service Plan for Microsoft Dynamics convenient links have been added in the certification exam preparation guides to direct you right to the E-Learning and training materials associated with the certification exam so you can prepare for the exam. Note: Before the links in the learning plans will work properly, you must go to the main E-Learning page to first create your E-Learning account so the links within the certification exam preparation guides are active.

For more information about certifications or to prepare for a certification exam, review the following exam preparation guides.

Core Exams (2 exams required):
C/SIDE Introduction in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 5.0
C/SIDE Solution Development in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 5.0

Elective Exams (2 exams required):
Financials in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 5.0
Warehouse Management in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
Manufacturing in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
Installation and Configuration in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 5.0
Trade & Inventory in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
========================================================================================
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Professional Microsoft Dynamics NAV Installation & Configuration
Last Modified 16.10.2007
Posted 28.7.2004
This premier certification helps demonstrate your professional developer proficiency in Microsoft Dynamics NAV. You must pass two core certification exams and two elective exams to earn your certification in Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Professional Installation and Configuration for Microsoft Dynamics NAV.

If you're enrolled in a Partner Service Plan for Microsoft Dynamics convenient links have been added in the certification exam preparation guides to direct you right to the E-Learning and training materials associated with the certification exam so you can prepare for the exam. Note: Before the links in the learning plans will work properly, you must go to the main E-Learning page to first create your E-Learning account so the links within the certification exam preparation guides are active.

For more information about certifications or to prepare for a certification exam, review the following exam preparation guides.

Core Exams (2 exams required):
Installation and Configuration in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 5.0
MS Exam 70-228*: Installing, Configuring and Administering Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition OR MS Exam: TS: 70-431: Microsoft SQL 2005 – Implementation and Maintenance

Elective Exams (2 exams required):
Financials in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 5.0
C/SIDE Introduction in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 5.0
Trade & Inventory in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
Warehouse Management in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
Manufacturing in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
MS Exam 70-290: Managing and Maintaining a Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Environment
MS Exam 70-291: Implementing, Managing, and Maintaining a Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Network Infrastructure

*MS Exam 70-228: Installing, Configuring and Administering Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition will be valid until Dec 31, 2007.

Note: To become certified as a Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Professional, you must successfully complete the exams that are based on version Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0 and/or Microsoft Dynamics NAV 5.0.

hvala

kojim putem si ti išao? odakle si učio?

Učio sam iz praktičnog rada na stvarnim projektima i Microsoftove literature.

jel misliš da je ok nastaviti sa onim knjigama koje si mi poslao i spremati ispit iz servera 2005?

kako je na akademiji? jel slušaju?

One knjige su za SQL i one su OK. Mislim da će ti za ispit trebati originalni MOC-ovi.
Još nisam išao na akademiju, tako da nemam preciznijih informacija.

da li neko zna koji če ispit biti neophodan posle 31.12.2007?
70-431?



hoće li ova dva ispita da važe do kraja 2008?

Naravno, zašto ne bi važili?

trenutno sa ove stranice:

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/certifications.mspx

oba linka



vode na istu stranicu

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/dynamics/default.mspx

a tamo je već moguće svašta naći

pa vidiš da je sql serveru 2000 odzvonilo

Uf, znaš li koliko je star SQL server 2000? Windows Server 2008 tek treba da se pojavi iduće godine, kao i ispiti za njegov sertifikat. Nezamislivo mi je da će ukinuti stare ispite u istom trenutku, pošto nikada nisu tako radili. Po mom mišljenju, MCSA/E 2003 ispiti će važiti/biti aktuelni minimalno do 2010, ako ne i dosta duže. Usvajanje novih serverskih sistema ide dosta sporije nego kod desktopa, a i tu smo svedoci da ne ide sve kao po loju.

ko pita ne skita

a znaš li šta će da zameni 70-228?

Verovatno nešto od ispita za SQL server 2005, ali ne bih znao tačno šta, ne bavim se bazama podataka.

70-431