instalacija RPM fajla

[ ludidzora28 @ 15.07.2008. 02:04 ] @

Nikako da instaliram rpm fajl. Radim sve kako teba, i logujem se kao root, i njakao sam po forumima ali jopet isto. U pitanju je fajl ''Winamp-0.a1-1.i386.rpm'', i kucanjem
''rpm -i Winamp-0.a1-1.i386.rpm'' izbacuje:

The program 'rpm' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
sudo apt-get install rpm
bash: rpm: command not found

A kucanjem ''sudo apt-get install rpm'':

Čitam spiskove paketa... Done
Gradim stablo zavisnosti
Reading state information... Done
Package rpm is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package rpm has no installation candidate

Sta mu je? Pomagaj ko more. Fala lepo!!!

_{[Ovu poruku je menjao Tyler Durden dana 15.07.2008. u 09:17 GMT+1]}

[ tdjokic @ 15.07.2008. 05:10 ] @

Odem ja u Sinaptik i potrazim paket rpm. Pojavi se on tamo i kaze u listi:

"rpm
Red Hat package manager" a kad sam kliknuo na njega pise sledece:

"Red Hat package manager
If you want to install Red Hat Packages then please use the alien
package. Using rpm directly will bypass the Debian packaging system!"

Kad sam potrazio "Winamp" izbacio je vise programa, drugacijeg imena, gde se spominje winamp.

[ ludidzora28 @ 15.07.2008. 08:38 ] @

evo ti link za winamp za linux, to je jedan od vise njih sa kojih sam skinuo ali uvek isto. I sa nekom drugom rpm aplikacijom isto izbacuje.

http://fileforum.betanews.com/...inamp_3_for_Linux/1002748075/1

[ ludidzora28 @ 15.07.2008. 09:22 ] @

Radi. Updateovo sam ga iz terminala i sve sradio, ali, uvek postoji ono ''ali'', kucanjem naredbe rpm -i *.rpm ispise neke nebuloze ali nigde nema error sto je dobro, ali sta dalje raditi?

[ Jbyn4e @ 15.07.2008. 09:51 ] @

ludi, tomica hoce da ti kaze da je RPM za drugu varijantu linuxa. Cak ti je i predlozio KAKO da na tvojoj distribuciji pronadjes kako da instaliras winamp, pa ako ti BAS zelis da instaliras RED HAT pakete na UBUNTU linux, bices prvi. Koristi UBUNTU pakete za instalaciju, odnosno programe apt-get iz konzole i synaptic iz grafickog okruzenja.

Nece ljudi da citaju sta im napises... cccc

[ momsab @ 15.07.2008. 14:26 ] @

za Ubuntu (i ostale Debian distroe) ide deb, za RedHat (i druge RedHat distroe, npr Centos) ide rpm
inace je ovo jedna od prvih stvari koje sam veoma lako saznao kad sam opet poceo da se bavim Linuxima pre vise od 5 godina (ako nekoga zanima, Linux sam prvi put koristio pre skoro 15 godina)

postoji unverzalno resenje zoveo se autopackage

ubuduce navedite koji distro koristite da bi neko mogao odmah da pomogne (postoji preko 500 aktivnih Linux distora danas)

[ ludidzora28 @ 16.07.2008. 00:34 ] @

Aj kad ste tako upuceni neka neko lepo na srpski kaze koji fajlovi se mogu instalirati u kubuntu i kojim komandama.
Skinuo sam i skype sa neta i on je *.deb kada kliknem na njega pogrene se neka instalacije i pise da ga smesti u:

usr/
usr/share/
usr/share/pixmaps/
usr/share/pixmaps/skype.png
usr/share/doc/
usr/share/doc/skype/
usr/share/doc/skype/README
usr/share/doc/skype/changelog.Debian.gz
usr/share/doc/skype/copyright
usr/share/icons/
usr/share/icons/skype.png
usr/share/skype/
usr/share/skype/lang/
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_et.ts
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_pt_br.qm
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_lv.ts
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_zh_s.ts
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_zh_t.ts
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_fr.ts
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_it.qm
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_bg.ts
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_ro.qm
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_tr.qm
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_zh_s.qm
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_pt_pt.ts
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_fr.qm
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_tr.ts
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_ru.qm
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_de.qm
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_de.ts
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_ko.qm
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_zh_t.qm
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_it.ts
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_es.ts
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_lt.ts
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_pl.qm
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_en.qm
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_pl.ts
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_lv.qm
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_es.qm
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_et.qm
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_pt_br.ts
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_en.ts
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_ko.ts
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_th.ts
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_ro.ts
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_th.qm
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_ja.ts
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_bg.qm
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_lt.qm
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_ja.qm
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_pt_pt.qm
usr/share/skype/lang/skype_ru.ts
usr/share/skype/sounds/
usr/share/skype/sounds/CallResume.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/CallRingingOut.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/SkypeLogout.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/CallConnecting.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/CallHangup.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/CallBusy.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/ContactAdded.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/ContactOnline.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/CallRingingIn.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/CallRemoteHangup.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/VoicemailReceived.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/ChatOutgoing.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/ChatIncomingInitial.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/ContactOffline.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/ContactAuthRequest.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/ChatIncoming.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/CallFailed.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/TransferFailed.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/CallHold.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/SkypeLogin.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/TransferRequest.wav
usr/share/skype/sounds/TransferComplete.wav
usr/share/skype/avatars/
usr/share/skype/avatars/Empire Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Behind Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype Brrr... .png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Ninja Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype Cola.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype-ahoy.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype Candy.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Designer Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype Time.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Travel Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Make Skype Not War.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype 502.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype in a Bag.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Architect Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype Safety.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/DJ Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Fax Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Devil Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Hula Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Sushi Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype Goaaaaal.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype Cool Shades.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skypahontas.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype Beauty.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Rice Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype-in-one.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Carnaval Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skypers of the Caribbean.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Star Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Angel Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Pop Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype Boarder.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Chic Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/College Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Call Me.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Earbud Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Beach Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Business Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/DIY Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype Headset.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype Artiste.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Metal Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype Extreme.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype Jyve.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Call Me Sweetheart.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype Bling.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype-a-Manger.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/The Skypeness.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Yin Yang Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Wetsuit Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype Jah.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Desert Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Party Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype San.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype Aid.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype Smiley.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Geisha Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Christmas Skype.png
usr/share/skype/avatars/Skype Shorty.png
usr/share/applications/
usr/share/applications/skype.desktop
usr/bin/
usr/bin/skype
etc/
etc/dbus-1/
etc/dbus-1/system.d/
etc/dbus-1/system.d/skype.conf

ali tamo nema nista od ovoga. Sto?

P.S. Znam da smaram ali sam nov a gajim na kompu XP pa sad i linux, da se malo naucim ali nesto nece ali ste tu vi da pomognete.

[ Danijel Krmar @ 16.07.2008. 01:14 ] @

Kako koristis Debian baziranu ditribuciju, treba da koristis deb pakete, a ne rpm. Po meni, najlaksi nacin da instaliras neki program je da koristis komandu apt-get. Ubacis potrebe repozitorije i dalje sve ide automatski.

Evo kako bi to izgledalo za Skype:

Code:
sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list

wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update

Ove dve komande sluze za ubacivanje repozitorija. Ovo hardy.list zameni u zavisnosti verzije koje imas. I da napomenem, ovo sa repozitorijem radis samo jednom.
Vise o Medibuntu repozitorijumu mozes da nadjes na sajtu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu, a uopsteno o repozitorijumima na https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu.

Sledeca komanda ce instalirati Skype, kao i sve ostale potrebne biblioteke:

Code:
sudo apt-get install skype

Inace, sa ovog repozitorija mozes da skines i raznorazne free i komercijalne kodeke, Google Earth, Acrobat Reader, itd.

[ tdjokic @ 16.07.2008. 06:29 ] @

Ja doduse koristim Mint, ali je on 100% baziran na Ubuntu, tako da cim sam potrazio Skype u Synaptic-u, on je bio tamo, nista nije trebalo podesavati repozitorije rucno:

"A VoIP software - Medibuntu package
Skype is a proprietary peer-to-peer Internet telephony (VoIP) software.
The Skype communications system is notable for its broad range of features,
including free voice and video conferencing, and its ability to use peer to
peer (decentralized) technology to overcome common firewall and NAT problems.

This package is in Medibuntu because it is not freely redistribuable.

This package isn't supported by Ubuntu: DON'T REPORT BUGS TO UBUNTU!"

Mint je tako i napravljen, da je sve "na tanjiru" kad ga instaliras, ne treba bas nista podesavati, ali ima malo drugaciji izbor instaliranih programa i jos neke sitnije razlike.

@ ludidzora28 - ako koristis Ubuntu, kao sto pise u tvom profilu pored poruke, onda su ti ljudi objasnili kako podesiti repozitorije i u buduce samo iz njih instaliraj programe. Izuzetno retko ce se desiti da ti treba jos nesto ekstra i onda uz to negde ima specificno uputstvo. To je jedna od najboljih osobina Ubuntua, da ima zaista dobro pripremljene repozitorije. Trude se i drugi, ali sam nailazio na svasta tamo, a ovaj Ubuntu 8.04 me do sada nije izdao ni jedan jedini put. Bilo je u Fedori, Mandrivi svasta - krene, instalira nesto, instalira i posle ga nema, a radio strogo po istom receptu kao u Ubutnu.

[ momsab @ 16.07.2008. 10:13 ] @

ako ne volis konzolu, mozes i graficki da instalrias programe, bilo preko Add-Remove u Applications meniju (ako si u GNome okruzenju) bilo preko Synaptic Package Managera
pre nego sto bilo sta instaliras proveri da li se to nesto vec nalazi u repozitorijumu. preporucujem da inace instalrias apliakcije koje se nalaz u nekom repozitorijumu, bilo sovm (poput qgis, npr), bilo u nekom opstijem (skype u medibuntu, recimo)