Zbog cega su apple laptopovi tako skupi? Znam da oni proizvode svoj hardware i software ali zbog cega tolika cena?

calimero: jel se menito cini ili su postovi trolova iz advocacyja poceli da se prilivaju ovde... ???

musicmaster: Samo zbog dizajna.

Pa i Sony je lep, pa ne košta toliko? :)

Pa i Sony je lep, pa ne košta toliko? :) Mora da si se prevario :)
A pa ti pišeš sa Win 7...a da, onda je definitivno samo zbog šminkeraja :)

Pali zari: Zbog cega su apple laptopovi tako skupi?

musicmaster
Samo zbog dizajna.

The first-sale doctrine as it relates to computer software is an area of legal confusion. Software publishers claim in their End User License Agreements (EULA) that their software is licensed, not sold, thus the first-sale doctrine does not apply to their works. Courts have contradicted. Bauer & Cie. v. O'Donnell and Bobbs-Merrill Co. v. Straus are two related U.S. Supreme Court cases.

Washington District Court in Timothy S. Vernor v. Autodesk Inc. the court followed United States v. Wise[1], in which films distributed by a studio that were not expected to be returned were deemed sold, and ruled that Autodesk software was sold, and thus eligible for the first-sale doctrine.[2][3]

Federal district courts in California and Texas have issued decisions applying the doctrine of first sale for bundled computer software in Softman v. Adobe (2001) and Novell, Inc. v. CPU Distrib., Inc. (2000) even if the software contains an EULA prohibiting resale. In the Softman case, after purchasing bundled software (a box containing many programs that are also available individually) from Adobe Systems, Softman unbundled it and then resold the component programs. The court ruled that Softman could resell the bundled software, no matter what the EULA stipulates, because Softman had never assented to the EULA. Specifically, the ruling decreed that software purchases be treated as sales transactions, rather than explicit license agreements. In other words, the court ruled that California consumers should have the same rights they would enjoy under existing copyright legislation when buying a CD or a book.

In a more recent case involving software EULA's and first-sale rights Davidson & Associates v. Internet Gateway Inc (2004)[1], the first sale reasoning of the Softman court was challenged, with the court ruling "The first sale doctrine is only triggered by an actual sale. Accordingly, a copyright owner does not forfeit his right of distribution by entering into a licensing agreement." However, the point was moot as the court found the plaintiff's EULA, which prohibited resale, was binding on the defendants because "The defendants .. expressly consented to the terms of the EULA and Terms of Use by clicking 'I Agree' and 'Agree.'"

Ivan Dimkovic: Nedeljko,

Ovde imamo nekoliko nivoa stvari - sama EULA kao takva, kao sto rekoh, u nekim zemljama NIJE ugovor. Niti moze biti ugovor jer si ti de-facto primoran da prihvatas uslove POSLE izvrsene prodaje - prema tome, takva primoravanja su u suprotnosti sa generalnim zakonima trgovine koji su daleko stariji od IT industrije. Hvala bogu, bilo je genijalaca i ranije - ali su drzave generalno stajale u zastitu svojih gradjana.

Softver možete koristiti pos sledećim uslovima:
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Ako sa ovim uslovima niste saglasni, možete vratiti softver na mestu odakle ste ga dobili uz punu nadoknadu.

na prvoj strani te knjige pise:

a) Ova knjiga vam nije prodata vec licencirana
b) Ovu knjigu ne mozete citati osim ako nemate Apple naocare
c) Ako sa ovim niste saglasni, knjigu možete vratiti na mestu gde ste je kupili uz punu nadoknadu.

Pali zari: a kako Mac OS stoji sa virusimai ostalim stetocinama? Jer isto moras da imas 3-5 programa za zastitu ?

Ivan Dimkovic: Nedeljko,

Ti u svojoj kuci mozes da umnozavas sta hoces i koliko hoces - niko ti to ne moze zabraniti. Vecina zakona o kopirajtu kaze da imas pravo da backupujes (iz ove price namerno izuzimam "zasticene" sadrzaje, to je vec druga prica koja je posledica najveceg lobiranja u istoriji EU od strane muzicke/filmske/softverske industrije i koja je de-facto narusila prava kupca)

Medjutim ako to nudis drugom licu, koje nije kupilo disk - ti onda krsis copyright. Za to nije potrebna nikakva EULA - vec obican copyright zakon.

Osim toga, ako nisi primetio - Windows sada radi kao trial ako nisi uneo serijski broj, tako da Microsoft verovatno nema nista protiv sirenju ISO kopija svog OS-a :)

Evo recimo ovde mozes da skines trial verziju servera koja je identicna komercijalnoj verziji - samo treba da se unese serijski kako bi ona postala komercijalna:

http://www.microsoft.com/windo...2008/en/us/trial-software.aspx