[ Srđan Pavlović @ 15.02.2010. 04:37 ] @
http://social.technet.microsof...00-c371-4e2c-a63e-bcac1ac94e57

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Same issue experienced here with a Dell Inspiron 1420 running Windows 7 Home Premium. After the updates were applied, the system would hang during startup and try to do a system repair. This ran for a very long time and then said it was unable to perform a repair.


etc...
[ Catch 22 @ 15.02.2010. 10:32 ] @
Windows 7 has stability issues

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KEYSTONE KOPS SOFTWARE OUTFIT Microsoft has shot itself in the foot with its Windows 7 stability updates that we reported on here.

One of the stability updates, KB977074, has been found to be responsible for compromising the stability of the operating system. Oh, the irony.

The update was one of many issued by Microsoft for Windows 7 just two weeks ago and the stability concerns have been highlighted by some annoyed forum members in a thread on the Vole's Technet.

Problems posted by thread denizens include crashed PCs and system hangs forcing reboots but there are also issues reported with Microsoft's media centre and recording programs.

Given that these aren't minor issues, the Vole replied to the thread with solution suggestions. Microsoft moderator Arthur Li recommended that anyone with the hang problem should disable antivirus programs, update drivers and restart their PC with a clean boot, then reapply the update.

More perturbing is the fact that Li suggests a BIOS update as well. BIOS updates are much simpler now with some PCs having auto-upgrade options available, but how many average Windows 7 users will be happy doing it?

So far no one has responded to say this has worked and Li even suggested that users having ongoing problems trying to apply the patch should "wait for the next stability and reliability update."
[ z@re @ 15.02.2010. 11:05 ] @
Ah te fragilaste igrackice...
Stas kad ih reklamiraju kao ozbiljan OS.
[ combuster @ 15.02.2010. 11:45 ] @
Izgleda da se W7 i matori BIOS-i ne vole bas, prvo ono sa baterijama, sad ovo...
[ Slobodan Milivojevic @ 15.02.2010. 12:57 ] @
Smejurija ziva osa windowsima.
[ Ivan Dimkovic @ 15.02.2010. 13:02 ] @
Najjace je ime apdejta:

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977074 - An update is available to improve the stability and the reliability of Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2


:-))))

Mada, iskreno... u sta se PC industrija pretvorila nije ni cudo da se ovakve stvari desavaju. Laptopovi imaju svoje dodatne interapt kontrolere, uvrnute ACPI tabele, proprietary drajvere koji se oslanjaju na bog zna sta, specijalne API-je do kojih dolaze do onih dodatnih dugmica na tastaturi itd... podrzati sve to nije bas lak podvig.

Uzmite jedan prosecan moderni laptop - sa njim obicno dolaze custom power management drajveri, softver od vendora koji direktno komunicira sa hardverom kako bi prikazivao neke interne detalje, Sony recimo shipuje i svoje PIC drajvere (cuveni SPIC i Firmware Extension Parser) itd...

Mada, Microsoft je za sve to kriv - sami su dozvolili svakojaki skrndelj da trci shipovan od strane OEM-a... pa sada neka se dave u svom "umecu".
[ xtraya @ 16.02.2010. 01:50 ] @
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Mada, Microsoft je za sve to kriv - sami su dozvolili svakojaki skrndelj da trci shipovan od strane OEM-a... pa sada neka se dave u svom "umecu".


haha jel to bese najnovija 7-icina verzija Vistinog pravila "howto make Pentium 3 from QuadCore"?

[ CONFIQ @ 16.02.2010. 11:17 ] @
Da ali nema svaki windows ovaj problem...
[ Take 5 @ 16.02.2010. 13:29 ] @
^ Naravno da nema, čak ni svaki Windows 7 nema opisan problem... inače bi es danas zvrjao prazan (pa ovih par pingvinčića ne bi imali sa kim da se prepucavaju)
[ Srđan Pavlović @ 16.02.2010. 13:37 ] @
Ne nego je u Srbiji 99% istog nelegalno - pa ih zabole za update za stabilnost :)
[ combuster @ 16.02.2010. 13:37 ] @
Oi, watch it... :D
[ xtraya @ 17.02.2010. 00:25 ] @
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Ne nego je u Srbiji 99% istog nelegalno - pa ih zabole za update za stabilnost :)


a legalniji radi stabilnije ? HA HA HA ... respect :)
[ Srđan Pavlović @ 17.02.2010. 00:54 ] @
Ma ne radi ni jedan stabilno ocigledno :)))

, ali ostaje cinjenica da ovde retko koga zabole za neki tamo KB$(*%@#% update
- mozda ce pokusati da ga instaliraju ako im ne radi Crysis nedaj boze, pa bas mora :)
[ valjan @ 17.02.2010. 00:59 ] @
Samo zamenite rec "nelegalan" sa "krekovan" ili "patchovan", i onda ce diskusija oko (ne)stabilnosti poceti da dobija smisao...
[ Catch 22 @ 17.02.2010. 01:17 ] @
@Srđan Pavlović: Vlastiti princip da ne učestvujem u diskusijama ovog tipa ipak moram da prekršim radi jedne konstatacije:
Windows 7 je vidno stabilniji od bilo koje prethodne verzije, a koliko sam iz svog vrlo skromnog iskustva sa Linuxom mogao da zaključim, isto važi i kada je Linux u pitanju.
Windows Update radi još uvek bez ikakvih problema i bez obzira na verziju Sedmice, a još nisam uspeo da vidim nijednu mašinu na kojoj se manifestovao problem iz naslova teme (recimo da je u pitanju neki dvocifren broj računara: desktop, notebook, raznih doba starosti, raznoraznih h/w konfiguracija... koji su mi "prošli kroz ruke")

Ne sumnjam da postoji negde neki računar, kog je ova sigurnosna zakrpa bacila na kolena, ali da je u pitanju nekakva masovna pojava to bih već malo teže prihvatio.



PS
A sad se možemo ponovo vratiti šaljivom tonu teme, da ne kvarimo tradiciju!




[Ovu poruku je menjao Catch 22 dana 17.02.2010. u 02:28 GMT+1]
[ xtraya @ 17.02.2010. 11:16 ] @
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Samo zamenite rec "nelegalan" sa "krekovan" ili "patchovan", i onda ce diskusija oko (ne)stabilnosti poceti da dobija smisao...


i onda baterija na 7-ici smara zbog "Windows 7 Loader 1.6.9 by Daz" ?

sigurno :)
[ valjan @ 18.02.2010. 02:18 ] @
Pa pazi, nikad ne znas sta je autor tih loadera, zakrpa i slicnih dzidzbidza stvarno ukljucio/iskljucio/promenio...